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Wednesday, 15 October 2014
Roger Penrose - beyond algorithms
Penrose's New Clothes
The Road to Reality: A Complete Guide to the Physical Universe by Roger Penrose Jonathan Cape, London, 2004, 1094 pages, £30 |
Bearing in mind the classic fairy tale by Hans Christian Andersen "The Emperor's New Clothes", I wouldn't be surprised if someone says, loud enough for the others to hear: "Look at the Penrose's new book. It's beautiful!" At first glance, the book does look stunning, and once we open it, we cannot miss the following statements printed on the inside flap of the paper sleeve: "The Road to Reality is the most important and ambitious work of science for a generation. It provides nothing less than a comprehensive account of the physical universe and the essentials of its underlying mathematical theory. (…) In a single work of colossal scope one of the world’s greatest scientists has given us a complete and unrivalled guide to the glories of the universe which we all inhabit."It is not known who is the author of these statements, however. This is the first shocking omission.It seems to me that Roger Penrose’s "The Road to Reality: A Complete Guide to the Laws of the Universe" is a very personal book, written by Penrose, and for Penrose. The first sixteen chapters are devoted to a galloping outline of the "underlying mathematical theory", but the author has failed to mention whether such an outlook has been helpful to any undergraduate or graduate student. I suspect that Penrose has not tested his mathematical outlook on anyone but himself. In my opinion, there are even more serious and alarming omissions. Penrose uses a well-known three-world diagram to present "the three forms of existence" (mental, physical, and Platonic mathematical worlds; cf. Fig. 1.3, pp. 17-18), but does not mention the proposition due to Leibniz (Monadology, 78) about ONE entity which emanates two complementary forms of existence, material and mental. Speaking about Leibniz, he discusses the notion of ‘dx’ as denoting an ‘infinitesimal quantity’ (p. 230), but fails to mention the paradoxes which we encounter by modeling ‘dx’ with a mathematical "point" (recall Zeno’s paradoxes and Thompson's lamp paradox of 1954, after James Thompson). Which brings us to the most important part of Penrose’s book, dealing with his insights and speculations in quantum physics and Einstein’s theory of gravity. Let’s recall some well-known facts. There is a profound mystery in our universe: 96 per cent of it is of some unknown nature, called ‘dark matter’ and ‘dark energy’. To quote from T. Reichhardt, Nature 421, 777 (20 February 2003): "The new data imply an age for the Universe of 13.7 billion years, and a distribution of mass and energy in which 4% of the Universe is normal matter (atoms), 23% is dark matter, and 73% is dark energy". The very first question regarding the so-called dark energy, which supposedly drives the expansion of the spacetime along the cosmological time arrow with constant acceleration, is about its physical substrate: energy of what? Let’s call it ‘energy of X’, and formulate the next, and perfectly obvious, questions: I look at my wristwatch and record an instant, t1 . At some later time t2 , say, t2 - t1 = 8 min, the spacetime will be expanded by the dark energy of X. Where is the pool of X located at the first instant, t1 , and what kind of time would you attribute to it, relative to t1 ?It shouldn’t be surprising that we encounter immense difficulties. Penrose does acknowledge that "gravitational energy is a genuinely non-local quantity" (p. 467; see also Ch. 19.5), but provides only an example of mass-energy conservation law defined at ‘null infinity’, under the stipulations that (i) the spacetime is "asymptotically flat", and (ii) some hypothetical "gravitational waves" were emitted from some physically unrealistic "isolated system", "in the limit when the system becomes completely spatially isolated from everything else" (Fig. 19.10, p. 468). (This "isolated system" sounds like astrology to me, but maybe I’m wrong.) Also, Penrose does not make any effort to compare the two kinds of non-localities, from Einstein’s gravitational energy and the holistic nature of quantum entanglement (p. 407 and Ch. 23; see also pp. 667-668). He only explains the reason why he has been unable to provide the actual dynamics of the "reduction of state" (p. 855): there is a fundamental conflict with Einstein’s principle of general covariance (p. 850). Fair enough. However, in the discussion of Einstein’s cosmological constant [lambda], which is the first issue we address to clarify the puzzle of ‘dark energy of X’, Penrose writes the following (p. 777): "Thus, any non-constancy in [lambda] would have to be accompanied by a compensating non-conservation of the mass-energy of the matter. It is certainly much more theoretically comfortable to have [lambda] constant – as indeed consistent with observation".It is certainly "theoretically comfortable" to bypass the so-called coincidence problem (cf. N. Straumann, gr-qc/0208027), but only in a book reflecting the personal inclinations of the author. Had Roger Penrose chosen a different title for his book (say, "The Road to Reality: A Personal, Biased, and Incomplete Guide to the Laws of the Universe"), I wouldn’t have any objections to it. To sum up, I would recommend Penrose’s book mostly to graduate students in mathematical physics (a good exercise is suggested on p. 319), provided they have previously studied H. Weyl’s "Space-Time-Matter" (Fourth Edition, Dover Publications, New York, 1951, p. 270), as well as two fundamental papers, by T. Levi-Civita (Rendiconti della Reale Accademia dei Lincei, vol. 26, 381 (1917); English translation in A. Loinger, physics/9906004), and again by H. Weyl (Amer. J. Math. 66 (1944) 591; see Appendix in A. Loinger, physics/0407134). Then perhaps they will enjoy Claus Kiefer's "Quantum Gravity" (Oxford University Press, 2004, 320 pages; ISBN: 0-19-850687-2). It’s being written for graduate students, with great clarity and professional scrutiny. Perhaps the road to quantum gravity should include the physics of the human brain, particularly its amazing self-acting faculty: we think about the brain, with the brain. Perhaps this could be a hint to the nature of gravitational field: it is not only nonlinear in its own coupling, but also makes all matter fields self-interacting. Our mind is not material, and yet it can interact with its brain, just as the geometry of matter is not material but does interact with all physical fields: "Space acts on matter, telling it how to move. In turn, matter reacts back on space, telling it how to curve" (John Wheeler). However, the intrinsic "timing" of this bi-directional talk is missing, and I anticipate a "fundamental conflict with Einstein’s principle of general covariance" (p. 850), too. We can probably find comfort in the last lecture by Albert Einstein (Princeton University, April 14, 1954, according to notes taken by J. A. Wheeler): "The representation of matter by a tensor was only a fill-in to make it possible to do something temporarily, a wooden nose in a snowman." As Roger Penrose put it (p. 1045), "Perhaps what we mainly need is some subtle change in perspective – something that we all have missed…" Here I agree with Sir Roger. Only the change in perspective may not be subtle.
D. Chakalov
August 10, 2004
Ref http://www.god-does-not-play-dice.net/Penrose.html#book
The Emperor's New Mind
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| Author | Roger Penrose |
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| Country | England |
| Language | English |
| Genre | Artificial Intelligence |
| Publisher | Oxford University Press |
Publication date
| November 9, 1989 |
| Pages | 480 |
| ISBN | ISBN 0-19-851973-7 (first edition, hardcover) |
| OCLC | 19724273 |
| 006.3 20 | |
| LC Class | Q335 .P415 1989 |
Penrose argues that human consciousness is non-algorithmic, and thus is not capable of being modeled by a conventional Turing machine-type of digital computer. Penrose hypothesizes that quantum mechanics plays an essential role in the understanding of human consciousness. The collapse of the quantum wavefunction is seen as playing an important role in brain function.
The majority of the book is spent reviewing, for the scientifically minded layreader, a plethora of interrelated subjects such as Newtonian physics, special and general relativity, the philosophy and limitations of mathematics, quantum physics, cosmology, and the nature of time. Penrose intermittently describes how each of these bears on his developing theme: that consciousness is not "algorithmic". Only the later portions of the book address the thesis directly.
Penrose states that his ideas on the nature of consciousness are speculative, and his thesis is considered erroneous by experts in the fields of philosophy, computer science, and robotics.[1][2][3]
Following the publication of this book, Penrose began to collaborate with Stuart Hameroff on a biological analog to quantum computation involving microtubules, which became the foundation for his subsequent book, Shadows of the Mind: A Search for the Missing Science of Consciousness.
The Emperor's New Mind attacks the claims of artificial intelligence using the physics of computing: Penrose notes that the present home of computing lies more in the tangible world of classical mechanics than in the imponderable realm of quantum mechanics. The modern computer is a deterministic system that for the most part simply executes algorithms. Penrose shows that, by reconfiguring the boundaries of a billiard table, one might make a computer in which the billiard balls act as message carriers and their interactions act as logical decisions. The billiard-ball computer was first designed some years ago by Edward Fredkin and Tommaso Toffoli of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Penrose won the Science Book Prize in 1990 for this book.[4]
See also[edit]
- Church–Turing thesis
- The Emperor's New Clothes
- Orchestrated objective reduction
- Quantum mind
- Shadows of the Mind
- Raymond Smullyan
- Alan Turing
- Turing test
References[edit]
- Jump up ^ L. J. Landau (1997), "Penrose's Philosophical Error", ISBN 3-540-76163-2 http://www.mth.kcl.ac.uk/~llandau/Homepage/Math/penrose.html
- Jump up ^ Various critical reactions to be found in Behavioral and Brain Sciences vol. 13 #4 (1990), 643–705, and vol. 16 #3 (1993), 611–622, e.g. M. Davis "How subtle is Godel’s theorem? More on Roger Penrose"
- Jump up ^ M. Davis (1995), "Is mathematical insight algorithmic", Behavioral and Brain Sciences, 13 (4), 659–60.
- Jump up ^ Royal Society Winton Prize for Science Books: Previous winners. The Royal Society. Retrieved 12 March 2013.
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Shadows of the Mind
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| Author | Roger Penrose |
|---|---|
| Cover artist | Joel Nakamura |
| Country | USA |
| Language | English |
| Subject | Artificial intelligence, mathematics, & quantum mechanics |
| Publisher | Oxford University Press, 1st edition |
Publication date
| 1994 (1st ed.) |
| Media type | Hardback |
| Pages | 457 pages |
| ISBN | ISBN 0-19-853978-9 (1st ed.) |
| OCLC | 30593111 |
| 006.3 20 | |
| LC Class | Q335 .P416 1994 |
| Preceded by | The Emperor's New Mind: Concerning Computers, Minds and The Laws of Physics |
Penrose hypothesizes that:
- Human consciousness is non-algorithmic, and thus is not capable of being modelled by a conventional Turing machine-type of digital computer.
- Quantum mechanics plays an essential role in the understanding of human consciousness, specifically, he believes that microtubules within neurons support quantum superpositions.
- The objective collapse of the quantum wavefunction of the microtubules is critical for consciousness.
- The collapse in question is physical behaviour that is non-algorithmic and transcends the limits of computability.
- The human mind has abilities that no Turing machine could possess because of this mechanism of non-computable physics.
Contents
[hide]Argument[edit]
Mathematical thought[edit]
Main article: Orch-OR § The Penrose–Lucas argument
In 1931, the mathematician and logician Kurt Gödel proved his incompleteness theorems, showing that any effectively generated theory capable of expressing elementary arithmetic cannot be both consistent and complete. Further to that, for any consistent formal theory that proves certain basic arithmetic truths, there is an arithmetical statement that is true, but not provable in the theory. The essence of Penrose's argument is that while a formal proof system cannot, because of the theorem, prove its own incompleteness, Gödel-type results are provable by human mathematicians. He takes this disparity to mean that human mathematicians are not describable as formal proof systems and are not running an algorithm, so that the computational theory of mind is false, and computational approaches to artificial general intelligence are unfounded. (The argument was first given by Penrose in The Emperor's New Mind (1989) and is developed further in Shadows of The Mind. An earlier version of the argument was given by J. R. Lucas in 1959.[1] For this reason, the argument is sometimes called the Penrose-Lucas argument).Objective reduction[edit]
Main article: Penrose interpretation
Penrose's theory of Objective Reduction is a prediction of Sir Roger Penrose about the relationship between quantum mechanics and general relativity. Penrose proposes that a quantum state remains in superposition until the difference in space-time curvature reaches a significant level.[2] This idea is inspired by quantum gravity, because it uses both the physical constants Penrose's idea is a type of objective collapse theory. In these theories the wavefunction is a physical wave, which undergoes wave function collapse as a physical process, with observers playing no special role. Penrose theorises that the wave function cannot be sustained in superposition beyond a certain energy difference between the quantum states. He gives an approximate value for this difference: a Planck mass worth of matter, which he calls the "'one-graviton' level".[2] He then hypothesizes that this energy difference causes the wave function to collapse to a single state, with a probability based on its amplitude in the original wave function, a procedure taken from standard quantum mechanics.
Orchestrated objective reduction[edit]
Main article: Orch-OR
When he wrote his first consciousness book, The Emperor's New Mind in 1989, Penrose lacked a detailed proposal for how such quantum processes could be implemented in the brain. Subsequently, Hameroff read The Emperor's New Mind and suggested to Penrose that certain structures within brain cells (neurons) were suitable candidate sites for quantum processing and ultimately for consciousness.[4][5] The Orch-OR theory arose from the co-operation of these two scientists and was developed in Penrose's second consciousness book Shadows of the Mind (1994).[6]Hameroff's contribution to the theory derived from studying brain cells (neurons). His interest centred on the cytoskeleton, which provides an internal supportive structure for neurons, and particularly on the microtubules,[5] which are the important component of the cytoskeleton. As neuroscience has progressed, the role of the cytoskeleton and microtubules has assumed greater importance. In addition to providing a supportive structure for the cell, the known functions of the microtubules include transport of molecules, including neurotransmitter molecules bound for the synapses, and control of the cell's movement, growth and shape.[5]
Criticism[edit]
Gödelian argument and nature of human thought[edit]
Penrose's views on the human thought process are not widely accepted in scientific circles (Drew McDermott,[7] David Chalmers[8] and others). According to Marvin Minsky, because people can construe false ideas to be factual, the process of thinking is not limited to formal logic. Further, AI programs can also conclude that false statements are true, so error is not unique to humans. Another dissenter, Charles Seife, has said: "Penrose, the Oxford mathematician famous for his work on tiling the plane with various shapes, is one of a handful of scientists who believe that the ephemeral nature of consciousness suggests a quantum process."In May 1995, Stanford mathematician Solomon Feferman attacked Penrose's approach on multiple grounds, including the mathematical validity of his Gödelian argument and theoretical background.[9] In 1996, Penrose offered a consolidated reply to many of the criticisms of "Shadows".[10]
John Searle criticises Penrose's appeal to Gödel as resting on the fallacy that all computational algorithms must be capable of mathematical description. As a counter-example, Searle cites the assignment of license plate numbers to specific vehicle identification numbers, to register a vehicle. According to Searle, no mathematical function can be used to connect a known VIN with its LPN, but the process of assignment is quite simple—namely, "first come, first served"—and can be performed entirely by a computer.[11]
Microtubule hypothesis[edit]
Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have constructed the Orch-OR theory in which human consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects in microtubules. However, in 2000, Max Tegmark calculated in an article he published in Physical Review E[12] that the time scale of neuron firing and excitations in microtubules is slower than the decoherence time by a factor of at least 1010. Tegmark's article has been widely cited by critics of the Penrose-Hameroff hypothesis. The reception of the article is summed up by this statement in his support: "Physicists outside the fray, such as IBM's John Smolin, say the calculations confirm what they had suspected all along. 'We're not working with a brain that's near absolute zero. It's reasonably unlikely that the brain evolved quantum behavior', he says."[13]However, in 2007, Gregory S. Engel claimed that all arguments concerning the brain being "too warm and wet" have been dispelled, as multiple "warm and wet" quantum processes have been discovered.[14][15]
See also[edit]
- The Emperor's New Mind
- Computational theory of mind
- Quantum mind
- Alan Turing, creator of the Turing test
- Orch-OR
Notes and references[edit]
- Jump up ^ Minds, Machines and Gödel
- ^ Jump up to: a b Penrose, Roger (1999) [1989], The Emperor's New Mind (New Preface (1999) ed.), Oxford, England: Oxford University Press, pp. 475–481, ISBN 0-19-286198-0
- Jump up ^ 'Folger, Tim. "If an Electron Can Be in 2 Places at Once, Why Can't You?" Discover. Vol. 25 No. 6 (June 2005). pp33-35.
- Jump up ^ Hameroff, S.R., and Watt, R.C. (1982). "Information processing in microtubules". Journal of Theoretical Biology 98 (4): 549–561. doi:10.1016/0022-5193(82)90137-0. PMID 6185798.
- ^ Jump up to: a b c Hameroff, S.R. (1987). Ultimate Computing. Elsevier. ISBN 0-444-70283-0.
- Jump up ^ Penrose, Roger (1989). Shadows of the Mind: A Search for the Missing Science of Consciousness. Oxford University Press. p. 457. ISBN 0-19-853978-9.
- Jump up ^ Penrose is Wrong Drew McDermott, PSYCHE, 2(17), October 1995
- Jump up ^ Minds, Machines, And Mathematics – A Review of Shadows of the Mind by Roger Penrose David J. Chalmers, PSYCHE 2(9) June 1995
- Jump up ^ Penrose's Gödelian argument (PDF) Feferman, PSYCHE 2(7) May 1995
- Jump up ^ Beyond the Doubting of a Shadow – A Reply to Commentaries on Shadows of the Mind Roger Penrose, PSYCHE, 2(23), January 1996
- Jump up ^ Searle, John R. The Mystery of Consciousness. 1997. ISBN 0-940322-06-4. pp 85–86.
- Jump up ^ Tegmark, M. (2000). "Importance of quantum decoherence in brain processes". Phys. Rev. E 61 (4): 4194–4206. arXiv:quant-ph/9907009. Bibcode:2000PhRvE..61.4194T. doi:10.1103/PhysRevE.61.4194.
- Jump up ^ Tetlow, Philip (2007). The Web's Awake: An Introduction to the Field of Web Science and the Concept of Web Life. Hoboken, NJ: John Wiley & Sons. p. 166. ISBN 978-0-470-13794-9.
- Jump up ^ Engel, Gregory S.; Calhoun, Tessa R., Read, Elizabeth L., Ahn, Tae-Kyu, Mančal, Tomáš, Cheng, Yuan-Chung, Blankenship, Robert E., Fleming, Graham R. (12 April 2007). "Evidence for wavelike energy transfer through quantum coherence in photosynthetic systems". Nature 446 (7137): 782–786. Bibcode:2007Natur.446..782E. doi:10.1038/nature05678. PMID 17429397. Retrieved 7 December 2011. Cite uses deprecated parameters (help)
- Jump up ^ Panitchayangkoon, Gitt; Dugan Hayes; Kelly A. Fransted; Justin R. Caram; Elad Harel; Jianzhong Wen; Robert E. Blankenship; Gregory S. Engel (6 July 2010). "Long-lived quantum coherence in photosynthetic complexes at physiological temperature.". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 107 (28). doi:10.1073/pnas.1005484107. PMC 2919932. PMID 20615985.
- This article includes text originally by Philip Dorrell which is licensed under the GFDL
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